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Re: service reception rule change (beach/outdoor/local rules)
- To: "Scott R. Furtwengler" <decon@siu.edu>
- Subject: Re: service reception rule change (beach/outdoor/local rules)
- From: Todd <tdh@vbref.org>
- Date: 17 Jul 1998 17:29:31 -0500
- In-Reply-To: "Scott R. Furtwengler"'s message of Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:07:23 -0500
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"Scott R. Furtwengler" <decon@siu.edu> writes:
>
> Howdy, all
> I would like to post this to get your opinions/reactions as well as vent
> my frustration over the silliness of the following:
> I am on a team in a men's A league (beach). We just started a new season
> Wednesday night and the organizer informed us that recieving serves with
> the overhead pass style is outawed.
<rant>
Oh no! More local leagues trying to make homer rules that confuse
people even more. Joe Arkin and I will say it loud:
If multiple sanctioned rulesets in the US is a crime (and it
is...but we're coping), adding local rules on top of any one
of them should be a felony.
Standards are a Good Thing. Proprietary things (including rulesets)
are Bad.
The rule/situation you mention is particularly bad, because the
first-team-contact rules for USAV outdoor are already hugely
misunderstood. Almost no one really understands the hard-driven ball
clause relates only to lifts/carries, nor do the masses understand why
setting the first ball outdoors is harder to do w/o being called for a
double than it is indoors.
You're quite right, they don't need a rule that says "overhand passes
on the first ball are illegal" since rules regarding such a contact
already exist, and describe what's a double and what's a carry. What
they need to is simply educate the players on the accepted USAV or
FIVB rule rather than making a pedestrian rule of thumb that confuses
people more than it helps clarify things.
Education can be found here (I hope):
http://www.aceitup.com/rules.html#emphasis
I worked with the local organization that runs most of the sand
tournaments in the greater Chicago area to create a page on the
tournament web site that clearly spells this out...primarily for my
own sanity during the tournaments in which I played. I also use this
as an outline for captains meetings in outdoor leagues and
tournaments.
http://www.aceitup.com/rules.html
Here, I tried very hard to unambiguously state which rules were being
used for MVP tournaments, and also explain the
most-frequently-misunderstood rules on the beach.
> During the course of our match I forgot this about three times and
> gave up three points. After the match I asked the organizer why in
> the world such a change in rules was made, especially when the rest
> of the volleyball world (as far as I know) has allowed the overhead
> pass for service reception. His response was that at the captains'
> meeting some of the captains present suggested it should be outlawed
> since so many of the players can't do it well. They voted on it and
> won. I couldn't believe it.
I wonder how many people voted who have never read a rulebook in its
entirety. I do feel your pain.
> Am I being too anal about this? Or should I protest a little more?
> Scott
No you're not. I certainly would pursue it further, but I tend to be
a little anal-retentive me-self. :-)
Really, it's insulting to A players to have unnecessary local rules.
Pick a recognized sanctioned ruleset such as USAV Beach and use it!
If you have an extraordinaryly good reason for doing so, add a local
rule concerning match format, etc., but leave the ball handling rules
alone. There are too many variations and misconceptions running
around the US already.
Ah....I feel better now.
</rant>
Best Regards,
--
Todd H. tdh@vbref.org
USAV Regional Referee, Great Lakes Region, Palatine, IL
Todd's Volleyball Referee Page http://www.io.com/~tdh/vball/
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