Todd
From gt7575e@prism.gatech.edu Thu Jun 19 23:43:04 1997 Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology From: Michael David BertzEditors note: Cobra net system is actually around $300Subject: Re: outdoor net system recommendation Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 00:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Todd, I think that you were the one who originally posted the article asking for advice on outdoor nets which I responded to. I didn't copy this post to you when I put it in the newsgroup, but I think that you asked for advice again, so here it is. Note that my estimated prices are a little higher than what you posted (good deal for you! :). I would recommend both the Park & Sun (Classic) or the Forster. Michael ********** I have had experience with several net systems. In nearly all cases, the ultimate determiner about the liveliness of net play, etc., is who set the net up and how well they did. I have a Park & Sun Spectrum 2000 (I'm not sure if this is the now 'Classic' or not, it's about 6 years old), and have been very happy with it. It was made by some neighbors of mine from Englewood, CO, so I guess I'm a little biased (ABC!). Anyway, while it's true that net play is limited versus a few other systems because there is no bottom cable, this is somewhat true of most systems in your price range. For best results, you need to erect the net carefully and achieve your net tension so that it's evenly distributed across the net from top to bottom (has the pleasant side effect of reducing stress at the top). In my experience playing outdoors in Colorado, Ohio, and Georgia, this is one of the most dominant net systems used. Other advantages to the Park & Sun: Metal poles, telescoping mechanism, net already attached. The Centerline "The Net" is a very similar system, with the differences (at least amongst the nets I've seen) to the Park & Sun being smaller diameter _steel_ poles versus the P&S's 2.25" dia. aluminum poles, which come in three sections and must be assembled versus P&S's telescoping. The net also must be attached as you put it up. Overall, I've also had very good results with The Net and would recommend it, too. The GT Volleyball Club 1.5 years ago purchased one of the then-new Forster net systems. We like it a lot because it boasts ~3" dia. telescoping aluminum poles which offer unlimited adjustability, unlike the P&S which has little metal nubs which spring-out at pre-set heights. This allows the Forster net to be adjusted to achieve 'real' heights (other net systems often end up a little low). The net is also pretty sturdy, with wooden dowels vertically at the ends to help provide full-net tension. It comes complete with a sand kit (the P&S and Centerline models are extra, I believe). We've had very good results with this net and it seems to be holding up well with pretty strenuous use. The Forster system bag is a little larger and heavier than both the P&S and Centerline (P&S is the lightest I've used). The best system I've used is the 'Cobra' system which I guess is now being marketed by AAI, but was developed by some guy in California. It consists of a pair of 18" (? maybe 24") stakes which are driven with a sledge into the ground. The poles are somewhat flexible and fit over the stakes with sleeves. The greatest benefit of this system is the lack of guy wires and the lively net play. It is also nearly impossible to pull down. Obvious drawbacks are the weight of the system and needing to pound the stakes in. I will say from experience though that it is worth it. Oh, and the system is a little pricey, too. As for the $40 jobs from your local Wal-Mart, STAY AWAY unless you only intend to use it with your average picnic-baller. A member of the club recently purchased one and it came with 1" dia. PVC (??!!??) poles which nearly buckled as we tried to tension the net. All in all, not good. So, to summarize: Park & Sun (at least the Spectrum 2000) Adv: Ease of setup/takedown, telescoping poles, decent net tension, not too heavy Disadv: No unlimited net height adjustment, can give poor net tension if not erected properly Bottom line: A good upper-middle level net, suitable for all levels Price (guestimate): $299 Centerline The NET Adv: Pretty light, not too tough to setup/takedown, decnet net tension Disadv: Poles are not one piece/telescoping, tougher to get good tension than P&S Bottom line: A good middle level net, suitable for all levels Price (guestimate): $279-289 Forster Net system Adv: Unlimited net height adjustment, easy to setup/takedown, telescoping poles Disadv: A little heavier, more complicated to assemble (though once this is done, you're golden) Bottom line: An excellent upper-middle level net, suitable for all levels Price (guestimate): $340-350 Cobra Net system Adv: Get net play and tension, no guy wires Disadv: Very heavy when you include the sledge, takes a little longer to set up (especially when new to the curve), pricey Bottom line: Great net if you put on a lot of tournaments and the field's owner doesn't mind a few small-diameter holes Price (guestimate): $400-500
Well, there you have it. As always, standard disclaimer applies, especially on the prices, and the fact that most manufacturers make more than one model - be sure and examine the features on the one that you're about to order. Nearly everyone has their own opinions about which net to buy. If you're really looking at ~$300, I'd buy the Park and Sun. If you can spend a little more, consider the Forster. Also as always, your mileage may vary. Michael -- Michael Bertz Georgia Institute of Technology e-mail: gt7575e@prism.gatech.edu